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fe7felix
07-28-10, 01:31 PM
hello all
i have got a tecnic question
a friend of mine gave me windows 7 ultimate 64
im running vista, have an asus m50 core2duo8600 4gram nv9650gt
i think this is 32 bit
whats about compatibility 32/64
can i run it, and the most important thing is: makes sense??
i dont like the vista very much but..
thanks for help
fe

tinybobdfa
07-28-10, 02:20 PM
No is the simple answer you can not use a 64bit operating system on a system running 32bit if you did nothing would run as it is set up to run as a 64bit motherboard yours is not. You will need to get a 64bit machine to be able to use the software.

Afterall this is why you can get 64bit and 32bit operating systems.

It is all based on the hardware in your system!!!!!

fe7felix
07-28-10, 02:49 PM
thanks bob, all i wanted to know! :(

MisterPWN
07-28-10, 03:32 PM
No is the simple answer you can not use a 64bit operating system on a system running 32bit if you did nothing would run as it is set up to run as a 64bit motherboard yours is not. You will need to get a 64bit machine to be able to use the software.

Afterall this is why you can get 64bit and 32bit operating systems.

It is all based on the hardware in your system!!!!!

Did you look up his mobo? I thought the OS was determined by the processor, and his processor is 64 bit compatible.

Windows 7 is scores better than Vista, but you would have to reformat your hdd, essentially wiping it clean and then reinstall Win 7, and all your programs again, which may or may not be worth it to you. Also with a 64 bit OS, it will support higher amounts of Ram. 32 bit supports up to 3.6~gigs of ram, and 64 bit is recommended for systems with 4gig+

Just my input

tinybobdfa
07-28-10, 03:57 PM
I have a 32bit system with 12gigs of ram:eek:
But I also have a 64bit system with a scarey 32gigs of ram:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Super-Medic-Ace
07-28-10, 05:21 PM
It depends on the processor. I succesfully ran my 64 bit AMD quad core processor on a Windows XP 32 bit Operating system. The reason it worked was because my processor can run in either 32 or 64 bits. It has both modes though it is meant for the 64 bit environment. I haven't checked but find out if your processor supports both modes. The Intel website will likely tell you.

tinybobdfa
07-29-10, 12:08 PM
His biggest problem is that ASUS m50 Motherboards have little or no drivers for 64bit control including NO shortcut key controls.

On this motherboard you NEED to have shortcut key controls.

Here is the list of controls you will no longer be able to use....

Instant launch Keys,2 buttons:
Wireless Switch, Power4Gear eXtreme Function Keys:
Fn+F1 Suspend switch
Fn+F2 WLAN switch
Fn+F2 Bluetooth switch
Fn+F3 Access to the E-mail
Fn+F4 Access to the Internet
Fn+F5 Brightness down
Fn+F6 Brightness up
Fn+F7 LCD on/off
Fn+F8 LCD/CRT switch display
Fn+F9 TouchPad Lock
Fn+F10 Volume on/mute
Fn+F11 Volume down
Fn+F12 Volume up
Fn+Num Lk: Scroll Lock on/off
Fn+Space Power 4Gear eXtreme
Fn+C Splendid
Fn+T Power4Phone
Fn+V Camera capture
Fn+↑: Stop
Fn+↓: Play/Pause
Fn+ ←:Skip to Previous Track
Fn+ →:Skip to Next Track

tinybobdfa
07-29-10, 12:29 PM
Can I ask WHY??????

Would you want to run a 64bit machine at a slower rate at 32bit!!!
When it is designed to run as 64bit.

If you ever do any video editing trust me when I say use 64bit with 32 gigs of ram.

hehe it takes the poop out of 32 bit systems.

Allow me to give you an idea of the difference.

I compiled a video the other day with one of my mixes the file ended up being 42 mins and 14 secs long.
To render this into dvd form I used "ConvertXtoDVD 4"

With extra menus, total play time of 44 mins.
To turn this into a dvd in 64bit mode took me a total of 3mins 29secs
The same layout but on a 32bit OS took me a total of 12mins 2 secs

64bit mode setup
32 gig RAM
Nvidia 5800 quadro with 4 gig of RAM onboard
X2 6400+ AMD CPU
That's all the important stuff.

32bit mode setup
32 gig RAM (can only use 4gig in 32 mode)
Nvidia 5800 quadro with 4 gig (32os only sees 1gig of this ram) of RAM onboard
X2 6400+ AMD CPU
Now you can see why it helps in VT editing.

It does make a difference with all that ram.....

On a downside for me my graphics card is too powerful for BF2 and I get graphic issues when I have terrain set to high :(:(
but everything else runs just fine!!!!

fe7felix
07-29-10, 05:33 PM
hey bthanks for replies.
bob, your machine is other dimension, dont compare it with computers.. makes me sad. ;)
i looked at some sites, they all said tht the processor i have runs 64b. loose the fn keys doesnt matter if the system runs stable and fast. the bad thing is back up all stuff and load the new os (could i copy things on a particion forex D: or do i have to format the entire hd?)loose all progs isnt problem neither, i just have a lot of lil freewaretools.
would run a win 7 32 more effecient on my laptop than 64 version?
would any of them run more effecient than my vista homepremium??

MisterPWN
07-29-10, 06:09 PM
Windows 7 in general uses less resources than Vista, and is an all around more efficient OS. It would be an upgrade to to install Win7 32 bit, you won't lose any performance, your total amount of ram will be less than if you went 64 bit though. You should be able to keep all of your function keys and everything else should run smoothly (at least as good as Vista if not better). You might research the laptop/motherboard and see if they have drivers for Windows 7 to begin with, otherwise this is all kind of moot. I had forgot about laptops and there sketchy support for 64bit, thanks for bringing that up tinybob.

It might be possible to create another partition and load your files onto that as a backup, then just reformat the OS partition, but I wouldn't recommend doing it that way. If you have an external hard drive, or large enough flash drive that you can transfer them to, then completely wipe the laptops hard drive, that is how I would do it.

tinybobdfa
07-29-10, 06:23 PM
It would be a good idea to get yourself a small external harddrive about 200gig they are nice and cheap nowa days. (about £25-40 here in UK)
Or if money is not a problem go my route........
I brought a second PC tower case with a large power supply.
I have an external SATA conection that I set up to be able to run up to a maximum of 8 Harddrives, right now I have 4 1.5Tb HD's inside my extra case.
You may wonder why?
Well I write dance/trance music I have just over 2Tb of samples for my music proggys!!!!
and to top it all of I have about 1tb worth of BF2 stuff including mods and maps.
Keep everything including all your BF2 stuff in a nice safe place.
Then when ever you need to re-install you have it all in a nice handy location.
Also you can put all the utils you need for a full install in this HD making it nice and easy.
I have been looking at you CPU and yes it would be happier in 64bit mode but you motherboard would not, as I said before your problems would start when looking for drivers.
Laptops are notoriously bad when it comes to 64bit os.